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date for NICE FAD

I have had further discussion with other consultees and I now understand that NICE will take a while longer to publish the FAD. It says on their website that publication can take up 30 days from the meeting. ... given that the FAD meeting was originally to take place in December but was delayed until Jan then it follows that 20th Jan is too soon to expect a decision. The FAD will more likely be published towards the end of February which means we will have to be patient a while longer!

I will update as and when I have more information.

meanwhile, best wishes to all of you,

Sandy

Sandy

Do you know if the submissions made to NICE can be viewed once the meeting has taken place?

Simon

Dear Simon,

I am not sure but probably not. I know that there are issues with confidential materials for formal consutlees and there are legal signatures required. However, once the FAD is published (within 30 days of the meeting) then that will be in the public realm... but I am not sure if all the submissions will be viewed online... other that the NICE Final Appraisal Doc. I will try to find out.

After the FAD is published, we will start a campaign should the FAD be negative. Their conclusion will affect how we respond. I know that NICE will not accept appeals at that stage that are based on the content of the document- unlike the ACD. However, after the FAD it will then be possible to appeal- should we need to- but only about the process used.

I understand that other consultees will do the same and assess their positions after the FAD. We will then have a few weeks to construct an argument. I am hoping that this will not be needed -as we all are- but somehow I think we will not be so lucky this time.

Any party that wins the next election - no matter what they say now- will need to make cuts. That is understood by everyone but is more urgent because of the recent bank meltdown.... and of course this is not only in the UK.

However, and this is my personal opinion, we need to rethink the whole NICE system- one sized does not fit all- in order to guard against the inequality and lack of access to the best therapy experienced by citizens who happen to be unlucky enough to develop cancer and particularly a rare type.

By sticking with NICE HTA model, it does not mean that it is the best model nor that it is a gold standard at which all other HTA models should be measured. This is of course arrogant and there are others countries within EU that reject NICE's model.
From my point of view we will need to be vigilant when we are listening to politicians in the throws electioneering and read very carefully between the lines.

Best wishes,

Sandy

I heard a little rumour yesterday that those at NICE will be meeting up again regarding dasatinib and nilotinib. I don't know if this is true, but if so then I imagine the date for publication will almost certainly be in February.

If it is true, I see it as potentially good news (at least they wouldn't have dismissed them outright - though, of course, they could just be discussing their plan of action in publishing their decision).

The timeframe and apparent lack of transparency in this process is becoming pretty frustrating.