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Nilotanib

I was at Hammersmith yesterday and was told I will be switching from Gliveec To Nilotanib , I was told of the times on before and after, will be picking it up today and start taking tomorrow.

any help from others that are already on Nilotanib in suggesting times , as it is so different to Gliveec

Mo

My husband also attends Hammersmith and took Gliveec for 11 months and then swapped to Nilotinib .Once he got his head around the fasting it was fine. He has tried various times i.e 12am/12pm and has now settled with 5am and 5pm.This works well for him, he sets alarm (doesn't have to worry about the 2 hour fast beforehand),takes pill then back to sleep until 7am. He finds fasting from 3pm-6pm easier than his previous time of 12am and 12pm. These times do not interfere with lunch meetings or going out in the evenings etc. Think you just need to think about your lifestyle and what suits you best and then you MANAGE the drug rather it dictating your life! Hope this helps.
Mary Ann

Thanky for getting back, will have to get used to a new way of taking tablets will learn to rule the tablets and not let the tablets rule me.

Thank you again

Hi Mo,
good luck with your switch of therapy. I am sure you will work out the best times that suit your lifestyle. The key is to stick to the same time of day/night so the levels of drug are stable.

Best wishes,
Sandy

Thank you sandy, after being on Gliveec for so long and all going well, then to find things change it was bit of a shock ,

Hope you are well.

Mo

Hi Mo,

Good luck with the new drug.

How long were you on Glivec for?

I have been on Glivec for 4 years (hardly any side effects) now and last time I saw my consultant at HH, she told me to think about reducing the dose to 200 per day.

I am not too sure if I want to reduce the dose as Glivec is not causing me any problems at the moment and I have read that reducing the dose does not always work for everyone; many people have to either go back on a higher dose of Glivec or go on to a new drug.

I would appreciate any comments/suggestions from anyone who is going through or has been through the same experience.

shahid

Hi

I was on Glivec for about 11 yrs on 400 most of this time and doing well with no side affects, the reason for the change was my PCR levels,
As for the 200 I am no expert even after all these yrs ,but at one time they thought of reducing mine to 200 I was not happy so remaind on 400, I am sure you will get others Talking on this subject,

Good luck in what ever you decide

Mo

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Hi Shahid,
Patients who have achieved stable molecular responses over some years are thought to be candidates for the DESTINY study which HH is part of. There are a few people on this forum who are currently taking part in this study. The first part is to reduce your dose to half for 12 months. If you maintain your molecular response at the same level as the full dose, then you will be asked to take part in the second part of the study. This is where good responders (to the reduced dose) try stopping therapy altogether. During this study you will have PCR tests on a 4 weekly basis- so any problems with rising counts would be seen. Currently that are just under 40 people enrolled nationally at about 4 centres. As soon as the other centres open (there are around 20 in the UK who are involved) we should see many more enrolling.

It is true that in the past doses under 400mg were not recommended, but for those whose responses are good and have achieved a stable MMR (3 log/0.1% (IS) by q-PCR) or lower over at least 2 years, this is not thought to be an issue. That is probably why your doctor at HH has suggested you might want to reduce your dose. It would be within the DESTINY study.

Sandy

Hi Sandy,

Apologies for the late reply and thank you very much for the information.

I think I do not want to reduce the dose just yet; I will wait for a bit more before I take any decision.

Shahid

When I was taking the tablets twice a day I was taking them at 6 am and 6pm. So fasting during the night and the I could have breakfast after 7 and likewise I would fast from 4 pm and couls eat dinner from 7pm. I used to set myself a reminder @ 15:45 to have a biscuit or cup of tea etc before the fasting started. On holiday I would adjust by an hour so that I could have teas or drink up until 5pm.
Hope that helps.

Mo, so sorry to hear this.

I do hope things go well for you with the swap to Nilotinib.

After 11 years on Glivec that must have been a huge shock. Especially if you've free of the side effects often associated with it. After so long you believe Glivec has solved the CML problem and CML is just there in the background. I know this can happen but I don't know enough about CML to know why.

Have the hospital given you any idea what has made Glivec stop working for you after all this time?

Keep dropping in and let us know how you get on.

with regards

Lydia

Hi Lydia,

The reason I was taken off of Glivec amd put onto Nilotanib was due to mutations it can just happens I was told ,they don't know why after so many yrs being on Glivec ,now been on Nilotanib for almost a week ,

I know early days but am so tired most of the time which am trying to get my head around after so many yrs of feeling fine,

Mo