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Haematology Conference in Cairo

Just had my first appointment with my local Consultant after stopping Glivec 3 months ago with the support of HH. Didn't know what to expect as up to now, like many other medics he has advised against stopping Glivec.
After reading letters from HH and information from a recent conference in Germany which debated this very subject, he is immensely supportive of my decision and wishes more patients would be willing to "take the plunge" if their circumstances were right. He was very interested in how much better I feel without Glivec. and asked me to write a few lines detailing the difference in my wellbeing in order to submit an abstract to the forthcoming conference in Cairo.
The following is what I sent to him.

After diagnosis in April 2003 I was given interferon with which I struggled for 9 weeks . I then requested a change of therapy and started on Glivec. After the dreadful side effects of interferon I was immensely grateful for feeling 100% better on Glivec and became PCR negative, which was sustained for almost 3 years, when I took the decision (with the support of my doctors) to see if PCR negative could be maintained without Glivec. (3 months on still PCR negative)

The change in my wellbeing was amazing.

Within 3 days my lethargy lifted and I felt as though I had come out of first gear. Chronic fatigue spells have disappeared.

Daily muscle cramps in hands, feet (instep) and back disappeared resulting in no more quinine.

My eyes which had developed conjunctival cysts due to fluid retention became pain free, the constant grittiness and watering disappeared. ( No more lubricants).My sight which was blurred first thing in the morning, is now normal.

Insomnia lessened remarkably, periods of profound depression disappeared, (no more temazepam).

I can now eat crisps and French bread, etc without developing a mouthful of blood blisters.

Morning nausea has gone and I can eat breakfast at breakfast time instead of lunch time.

Diarrhoea has ceased.

Up until stopping Glivec I had no idea how much my life was affected and how I must have felt prior to CML. One tolerates side effects partly through gratitude to the drug and partly because you get used to them and treat them as a part of life.

Maybe other people can identify with these problems and is interesting to read that Nilotinib may be the first line therapy in forthcoming years.

I have another PCR in 2 weeks at HH and will keep you informed.

Des, I stopped Glivec 5 weeks ago with the full support of my consultant Prof Michael O'Dwyer...so far things are going OK, I have a little more energy, eyes are back to normal, no more cramps, diarrhoea or tummy upsets, the only things that have gotten worse is i have alot of bone pain, something i never had much of on Glivec, i know its only early days but i thought i would feel better overnight!!!, but considering i was on Glivec since August 2003 i shouldnt be expecting so much as im sure it takes time to leave the body. I havent lost any weight which is very dissappointing, but all in all im happy ive taken the plunge.

Hi Des and Patricia,

Can you share with us what your doctor's plan of action is while you are doing this. e.g. How often you are tested. What is the criteria for restsarting Gleevec (or an other medication) if you relapse. etc

Des, because you started on Interferon you have a much better (50%) chance of remaining CML free long term.

Good luck to both of you.

Zavie

Zavie Miller (age 70)
67 Shoreham Avenue
Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3
dxd AUG/99
INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF
No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01
Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)
CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club
2.8 log reduction Sep/05
3.0 log reduction Jan/06
2.9 log reduction Feb/07
3.6 log reduction Apr/08
3.6 log reduction Sep/08
3.7 log reduction Jan/09
3.8 log reduction May/09
e-mail: zmiller@sympatico.ca
Tel: 613-726-1117
Fax: 613-482-4801
Cell: 613-282-0204
Yahoo ID: zaviem
YM: zaviemiller
Skype: Zavie Miller

Zavie Miller (age 70)
Ottawa, Canada
dxd AUG/99
Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)
CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club
3.6 log reduction Sep/08
e-mail: zmiller@sympatico.ca
Skype: Zavie Miller

Hi to you all,
After at least 3 years of being tested negative, I have also come off Gleevec, to avoid the nasty side effects that were becomming intolerable.
I was not as badly off as you Des, but I must say that two months on I am feeling great. One only realises the extent of these side effects once free from Gleevec.
I still have slight puffiness of the eyelids first thing on waking, but that soon dissapears. But I agree that insufficient water intake aggrivates the problem.
I will only be seeing my Haematologist in mid August, so that will be my first PCR in three months.
Fortunately I was at first on Inteferon A which I could not tolerate, but seemed to work well enough. So hopefully that may assist me in maintaining my results.
But should I relapse I have no problems with starting a new regime. But I am sure we will try a different drug to Gleevec.
But hey this holiday is great and I have even gained some weight, as I now can enjoy good food and beer!!
Good luck to all out there and remember that we are actually pioneers in this war against CML. So expect the unexpected, but remain positive about our future survival.
Kind regards.
Basil