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Hi,

I've been on glivec for just under four years. I started having problems with it July, I stopped taking it for about 6 weeks then I saw my consultant, and obviously I have since gone back on it. Now it seems I've lost my response to it, and I saw my consultant today and he suggested and bone marrow transplant?? I had a bone marrow test today, and he is waiting for those results and my latest blood test results before he makes a decsion, meanwhile he's keeping me on the glivec until me next appointment. I'm wondering his thinking is behind it, as he didn't mention anything about changing to a 2nd generation TKI!!
I'm just wondering what some of your thoughts are?

Sharon

Hi Sharon,
I would be looking to change doctors and get a second opinion. There are people who take drug holidays due to side effects and get their response back eventually. Loss of response in most cases happens when people skip doses (at least 3 per month, every month has been quoted in one of the Patient Power videos). Also there is still Tasigna and Sprycel to move to. I would ask your doctor why is he talking about a BMT rather than a second generation TKI.

Hi Sharon,

This is obviously quite a complex situation and I am struggling with how to advise you about what your consultant might be thinking, but I will try.

Can you say what the problems you had with imatinib/Glivec were, that caused you to stop taking it? They must have been quite severe and I assume your consultant did not know you had stopped?

If so he might now be suggesting a transplant because he might consider that your disease has progressed and/or you do not want to take oral therapy in the longer term?
OR
It might well be that your response has been sub-optimal and you have not reached the response goals as suggested by the ELNet guidelines.

It would helpful if you could share the following information:
your previous blood count:
*white cells
*platelets
*basophils
any blast cells evident?
and
Your last cytogenetic test result and/or PCR result (before you stopped taking the therapy)
i.e the % of PH+ cells or % BCR/Abl in the marrow

Did you have a major cytogenetic response (MCR)?
If yes, what was the level of that response:
i.e the % of PH+ cell reduction from the level at diagnosis? 20%, 60% or more?
If so how long did that take- 3 mths, 6 mths, 12ths or more?

If yes, did you go on to have a complete cytogenetic response (CCyR)?
i.e. a reduction of less than 1.5% PH+ cells in your marrow?
If yes, how long did that take?

If you had a CCyR (complete cytogenetic response) did you go on to have a molecular response (MR)?
i.e a further drop of BCR/Abl to below 0.1%
If yes, how low did your PCR test result go? 0.1%.... 0.01%..... lower?

Obviously your doctor will wait until your bone marrow test is available before he advises you further. Then you will be able to make a more informed decision about the possibilities open to you.

If your disease has progressed because it has not be adequately controlled by imatinib, then you have options: but it does depend on your next cytogenetic/PCR results.

I hope this is helpful,
Sandy