After hearing the news yesterday of the effect of the vaccine on cancer patients and the limited amount of antibodies found particularly in blood cancer patients, I am trying to get a second jab as soon as possible. My GP is encouraging this but the link he has sent me has not shown any free appointments as yet. Does anyone know how CML patients are doing in terms of antibody levels post-vaccine? I heard that blood cancers affecting B cells (eg CLL) are likely to have lower antibodies. I’d be interested to know if anyone has had their antibodies tested post-vaccine. Thanks, Sally
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Hi Sally,
I think that the extent of vaccinations and whether people have appointments for the second jab varies a lot across the UK-to some extent it will depend on availability of supplies and so on.
I looked at the NHS website and it will not yet allow me to arrange a second jab and advises those who had the first one via GP (either there in the surgery or via their GP s own link) or a hospital to go back to the first provider and organise it -or wait to be called.
I think that it is useful to consider that the SOAP study did say that there was a need for further research on cancer patients re the impact of the virus and vice versa on the immune system; in addition it would seem a good idea for researchers in the future to segment out the different types of blood cancers-CML,AML,CLL,Lymphomas etc,etc.
It seems that CML has been lumped in with all the total variations on blood cancers;as well, targeted molecular therapy by tki is totally different from some broad spectrum chemos and radiation therapies.
My final point is that there are still some interesting trials going on in different parts of the world to assess if any of the tkis are useful in treating Covid patients (with upper respiratory tract complications for instance): to this end Glivec/imatinib is being re -purposed in liquid form for intra venous use. There has been some early research on whether compounds such as imatinib and dasatinib offer some kind of "anti viral" protection and act as a possible prophylactic:in lab mouse studies came up with an indication of some substantial benefit to give protection from initially contracting the virus.The next stage is applying that to humans.Other studies have explored so called "gene uplift" from tkis in giving some viral protection to CML patients.
Early observational studies from China and Italy ,although not fully peer reviewed perhaps, did not find CML patients were at any extra risk from Covid compared with the general population.I am happy to wait for further "specific to CML" research to emerge and not to panic for my second jab- but in the meantime keep safe.
Best wishes
John
Hi John,
My first dose was arranged through my GP, but I booked my second jab on the NHS web site just this morning. It offered me a range of venues to choose from, and dates between the 11 and 12th week following my first dose.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccinati...
David.
Thank you for your replies. I have managed to get a second jab booked for 24th March which will be just under 8 weeks after my first jab, so I’m happy about that. I think you’re right that CML may fare better than other leukaemia types in relation to Covid but the SOAP study is disappointing nonetheless. Hopefully more data will be available soon. Best wishes, Sally
Thanks David,
This is the same site as I tried earlier today and comes up with the same message that "You are not eligible to book through this service" It advises to contact the provider of the first vaccination ie the GP or the hospital-I will pursue that route. I suspect that the outcome will depend on when supplies become available in the local area- for the Pfizer one.
John
https://bloodcancer.org.uk/news/does-this-new-study-mean-blood-cancer-pa...
This has a few more details about the participants.