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Low WBC on Imatinib

Hi everyone, Merry Christmas! I am so happy to find this forum! 
My little story - I have been diagnosed with CML about a month ago and two weeks ago I have started taking Imatinib 400mg. My WBC went from 48 to 10 in two weeks (they are within the normal range now). I know that they might drop below the range, but I wanted to ask the community how low can they go and how long will they stay this way? How compromised the immune system will be? Also have your doctors decreased the dosage of the pills at that stage? 
I’m a newbie and learning on the go, would really appreciate your answers :)

Thank you in advance!

Hi,
I think it takes some time for the blood counts to stabilize, it fluctuates a bit in the initial months.

Hola Kristina.
Yo también fui diagnósticado recientemente hace dos meses, estoy tomando imatinib de 400 mg. Hace un mes me hice un hemograma y mis niveles estaban casi normales, no me he vuelto a realizar otro hasta febrero que tengo mi chequeo de tres meses. Espero todo salga bien. Yo tomo imatinib en la mañana con un vaso de agua grande. Al principio no tenía ningún síntoma, pero desde hace 1 semana estoy con bastante fatiga y hago ejercicio diariamente, espero ya me pase.
Saludos y felices fiestas.

Welcome to this forum,

You may find it helpful to read (and re-read) our booklet on CML and testing/monitoring. It take some time to understand this disease as well as how the various tests show your response to therapy. Take a look at our booklet/primer - link is on our home page... see a snip below:

Genetic Tests used at diagnosis and in the first months of TKI therapy:

Some sort of genetic testing will be done to look for the Philadelphia chromosome and/or the BCR-ABL1 gene. The following types of tests can confirm or deny a diagnosis of CML.

Cytogenetics: also called Karyotyping
Chromosomes can only be seen when cells are in the dividing phase. Blood or marrow samples are cultured in the lab so that the cells begin to grow and divide, although this is not always successful. The dividing cells are looked at under a microscope to assess the number of immature vs mature cells as well as changes to chromosomes (pieces of DNA) and, in the case of CML, to detect the Philadelphia chromosome. Sensitivity is limited, typically detecting 1 out of 20 cells tested. Even when the Philadelphia chromosome is not seen, other tests can confirm the presence of the BCR-ABL1 gene.

Qualitative PCR - used at diagnosis to confirm or deny a diagnosis of CML.... i.e the presence of Ph+ cells / Bcr/Abl gene

FISH- tests upwards of 50-200 cells.... a more sensitive test than cytogenetics.

RT qPCR- (Quantitative qPCR)

What this test measures and its relationship to other tests:
After the start of therapy, q-PCR is used at specific time points after cytogenetic/FISH tests. Once tests show that the Ph+ cell population has reduced to less than 10%, the q-PCR test can more accurately quantify the amount of residual disease left in the marrow.

The goal of TKI therapy is to reduce the abnormal BCR-ABL1 gene to a deep molecular level, preferably to at least 0.1% (MMR/MR3)
During the first 3, 6, 9 and 12 months of therapy Ph+ cells should reduce significantly.

When the level of Ph+ cells falls below 1% q-PCR testing is extremely accurate and will be used to monitor the stability of a molecular response. Under ideal conditions, this test can detect 1 Ph+ cell in every 100,000 cells, although more commonly it detects 1 Ph+ cell in every 10,000.

Take a look at page 16 for a visual representation of the number of PH+ cells present at diagnosis vs the reduction you would want to see at you respond to treatment and through the first year/s of TKi therapy.

I hope this is not too complex for you at the moment. Please ask if you are not sure about your test results etc .

Hope you managed to have a relaxing Xmas.

Sandy

Hi Kristina

So sorry to hear about your diagnosis last year - I know it's a terrifying time and just want to reassure you that this condition is very manageable for the majority of people, as many on the site will confirm.

Unfortunately it's hard to say how low the white blood cell count can go because everyone responds to the TKIs in a different way, but usually people whose counts drop below about 1.5 will be managed by stopping and restarting the drug for a few weeks just until things stabilise.  There is so much going on in the body as your blood and bone marrow start responding to these wonderful medicines, that some chaos is inevitable!

In my case, my blood counts suddenly started dropping after taking imatinib 400mg for over 4 years - a really unusual case of this side effect appearing very late after diagnosis.  I stopped the drug and they went back to normal, but this took a few months.

Good luck and all the best for a speedy response to the imatinib!

Martin