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Hi Everyone

Can anyone help me.  I've often had eye bleeds since being on Glivec (Jan, 04).  But during the past month they are becoming more frequent.  I've had three eye bleeds in the space of one week all in the same eye. I get a pain above my eye before it happens.

Anyone else out there having lots of eye bleeds?

Angela 

Hi Angela,

I must admit that this was a very annoying side effect that I too suffered when I was taking Glivec. The only way I found to deal with it..rather than stop it happening... was to bathe my eye/s in HyperCal solution. This is a homeopathic remedy which is very effective in healing cuts and wounds no matter where they are... also it stops infections from bacteria taking hold.

You can find it online or you can call Ainsworths Homeopathic Pharmacy in London and they will send it to you by next day post. Ask for the mother tincture and then use 2-4 drops diluted in warm water to bathe the affected eye/s ... you can use this quite safely and as many times as you need to. It also makes a great gargle for sore throat.

You can also dilute some sea salt in warm water and use that as an eye wash... this can be very effective too.

Hope this is of some help. Eye bleeds are a common side effect but are not an indication that there is anything seriously wrong with your eyes.

Hi Sandy

Thanks very much for that information.  I will try HyperCal solution.  I have pain above the eye brow like a dull ache just before I get the eye bleed but this time the dull ache has not gone away like it normally does and the other eye now feel like it's going to go too.

My eye's are in good health (recently been to the opticians).  My blood pressure is ok too (normally on the low side).

Did you have the same problem with the ache before they bleed?

Thanks again.

Angela 

Sandy, have you ever heard the explanation for WHY these eye bleeds occur - I've had a couple in six months. If we knew why, perhaps we could take some preventative measure. As a yoga teacher who was always on her head!!! I now feel quite wary about putting that pressure into my head, so risking bleeds.

And it does feel as if there is generally more pressure than there ever was before... so this is probably to do with the extra water retention around the eye orbits. Do you think diuretics might help?

Always like the prevention route rather than cure...

Thanks for being here, as always!

Beth

I think eye-bleeding sounds pretty bad! I wouldn’t delay going to a doctor, it sounds serious to me. I recently noticed my vision getting blurry so went to an ophthalmologist and found out I have presbyopia and need reading glasses. Not nearly as bad as eye-bleeding.

Hi Sheila,

Thank you very much for your reply.  I've told my Consultants in the past, I've also had my eye's checked out by Moofields in London and they are fine.  So no problems there. So please don't worry about me.

Yes I would like to know what is happening in my body for this to happen and also the build up of pain above my eyebrow. I play a lot of sport but there is no pattern.  Why?  Is it the bending (looking down) whilst cleaning the stairs for instance? Or is it from lifting heaving items, putting strain on ones body? Obviously there is some kind of weakness. Is it muscular?   I would love know the answer. Or maybe no one really knows the answer!!!!!

Angela

Hi Sandy

I have got something not quite right with my right eye, could you explain the symptons of an eye bleed please.

Tony

Hi Angela and Beth,

I used to have a sharp pricking-like pain just before I noticed an eye bleed - and I assume that was from the blood vessel bursting.

As long as you have regular eye tests to rule out increased pressure in the eye (which can be a symptom of Glaucoma - a condition that is caused by inefficient fluid release which then causes increased of pressure in the eye which then damages to the optic nerve- it is treatable but should be screened for) and your blood pressure is also OK then I am sure you are doing all the right things. Eye bleeds seem to be a side effect of IM.... and maybe other TKI's?.....and might be to do with the increase in fluid that imatinib causes as Beth has suggested in her post.

Beth- I am wary of using diuretics because they might affect the balance of sodium and potassium levels and might also put more pressure on the kidneys. This is why I always drink a lot of water ( 1.5 litres a day) and use HyperCal as an eye bath to counter any kind of irritation or infection as although I no longer need to take imatinib, I wear contact lenses and find infections can happen easily even though I wear daily disposable lenses)

Sandy

Hi Tony,

the 'eye-bleeds' that are referred to in the posts are when you can see a redness - sometimes quite pronounced- of the white part of the eye. this is usually caused by burst blood vessels. It looks pretty bad but does not seem to indicate anything is seriously wrong. It seems to be a common side effect of taking imatinib.

If you have something that does not feel 'quite right' then it does not sound like you are talking about an eye- bleed, which would be clearly visible.

What is the problem you are having with your right eye?

Sandy 

singing over zelously in our choir's concert this weekend, another burst blood vessel in the left eye!!! Fourth time cince dx in NOv 09. Looks very dramatic (especally with the stage spotlights shining on one!), doesn't hurt and I believe is not serious.

Hi Sandy

It is not an eye bleed.  I am getting light flashes and floaters.

Hi Tony,

in that case I suggest you get your eyes checked by a good optician if you have not already done so. Otherwise the light disturbance could be a symptom of 'silent migraine' which I sometimes suffer from. Again this is not something that is normally treated by main stream doctors but more likely by 'alternative' practitioners.

However I would first check out that there is not something identifiably wrong...  by your Optician.... then if you do not get a diagnosis you could try your GP.... then go on from there. 

Hope this is helpful

Sandy

Sounds like the starting of retinal detachment, especially if the flashes are peripheral.   Probably nothing to do with Glivec.   Are you short sighted - if so, you are likely to have floaters and are more likely to get retinal detachment.   New floaters could be blood cells.   If you start to lose a segment of vision, get to hospital fast.   In any case, see an eye specialist quickly.

 

John

Hello,

I had a lot of eye bleeds when I was on glivec, now I changed to Sprycel they are gone. No problems like puffy eyes or bleedings.

I look like a horror queen with the eyebleeds.

Gr. Jolanda

Hi, I would like to know if any of you have had retinal hemorrhage in connection with Glivec? I see that some in here mention eye bleeding - but are these references to internal bleedings in the eye (small hemorrhage of blodvessels)or something else.
Best regards,
neel

Bleeding in the white of the eye. That's what I've had - and I think that's what the majority of CML'ers have experienced.

Hi Neel, I used to have about 2 a month, I used
to get a pain above my eye then it would bleed. I've now
been off Glivec for 2 months and have had more bleeds
I'm afraid it's a not very pleasant side effect of Glivec
All the best. Angela

hi neel my husband is having bleeding in the retina what did you do or how did you get the bleeding to stop

good day Angela did you have retinal bleeding? if so what did you do to stop the bleeding , what can be done by the doctors and any information on how you got through this will be appreciate

thank you
Malisia