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Upward tick in bcr abl. super concerned.

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My bcr abl ticked up from 0.125 to 0.2. I am getting concerned because over the past 2.5 years since diagnosis I have bounced around.
Since Mar 2022 (every 3 months) - 87, 0.8, 0.1, 0.07, 0.04, 0.14, 0.02, 0.07, 0.125, 0.2.
I am on 100 mg sprycel and always at a low neutrophil count. I did take a break for a few weeks in the first 2 months when I had myelosuppression . When I had Covid my neutrophils shot up within normal but higher end and my bcr level dropped to 0.02

My blood work is absolutely normal otherwise. My vitamin d level is 57.

Any ideas/suggestions? Should I up the dose to 140?? I am concerned and feel deflated.

@scuba do you think it makes sense to drop the dose to help my immune system fight it.

Thank you
Roger

Hi Roger,

How low are your neutrophils?

Thanks
Zoran

28 but my absolute is 2.08 which is normal but lower end.

Okay, last week I had low counts but the doctor advised no change of dose - 80 mg Asciminib. I will do another CBC tomorrow.

Neutrophils 1.1
Platelets 60
WBC 2.4

My BCR dropped from 33 to 16 in 2 months on Asciminib, hope it keeps going down. I haven’t been below 20 for 2 years while on Dasatinib and Nilotinib.

My IL-1beta is 10, it should be less than 5, so need to do something about it as it’s known to block TKI.

Thank you Zoran. Appreciate your feedback. Gives me strength to hear from you and other folks.

* https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/136/Supplement%201/3/471908/Th...
* https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/138/Supplement%201/3601/479738...

There is evidence lowering dasatinib dose from the usually prescribed "100 mg" starting dose can indeed lead to better response.
This was certainly the case with me. Like you, I suffered myelosuppression and always had a low neutrophil count while on dasatinib. My doctor (Dr. Jorge Cortes) lowered my dose to 20 mg based on his knowledge (he is a co-author on one of the papers linked above) and my response shot up (PCR fell dramatically). My dose never went above 20 mg.

It does seem counterintuitive as we are often told efficacy is dose dependent (i.e. more drug = better response). This is certainly true with drugs like imatinib up to the toxicity limit. But this is not the case for threshold drugs like dasatinib. Finding the best dose which works is key. Adding more drug does not lead to better response and in some cases, it can lead to a worse response. And in situations where pleural effusion and myelosuppression develop, lower dasaintib dose has proven to be more effective.

What you can consider trying is lower your dose to 50 mg as the papers suggest (with your doctors concurrence) and test your PCR levels after 3 months. If you find that your response has improved, you might even go lower.

It is possible you have a CML clone emerging that is resistant to dasatinib. At 0.2, however, you have time to test if lowering dose can work.

Thank you Scuba. Appreciate your much needed advice. Makes me feel better. I may have to ask my doc to also contact Dr Cortes.