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Hi everyone

We're going on holiday next week and I was just hoping for some advice please?

Should we carry Glivec in our hand luggage or in the hold or both (planning to take more than necessary and split it in case we lose any luggage)?

Are there any over the counter holiday-type remedies eg Immodium that shouldn't be taken with Glivec?

I'm a bit worried about storing Glivec on holiday as the instructions say not to store it over 30 degrees and it could be hotter, should we keep them in the fridge?!

Any other advice would be welcome as it's our first foreign holiday (we're going to Turkey) since my husband's diagnosis.

Thank you so much for your help - in advance.x

Speaking from my own personal experience, my husband was advised to carry all his meds as hand luggage as at some airports they want to physically check to make sure they are not illegal drugs!  We also carried a letter from his doctor just as evidence that he is a CML patient (although nobody has ever asked to see it and we've been on at least a dozen flights since his diagnosis). 

When we're in hot countries the tablets were either kept in the fridge, or if there isn't one, then pick the coolest, shadiest corner of the room.

I think it's a good idea to split it between you so that you're not carrying the whole lot, just in case :-)

Have a lovely holiday. 

Bhiru 

 

Hi,

We always split the pills between hand and hold luggage, it is much more reassuring just to know that if something happens then you still have the medication. You would be fine without it for a short period but it is nice not to worry.

I didn't ever worry too much about temperature.

What I always do though is to take copies of any letters from the hospital to the GP, also any copies of blood tests. I have never needed these but the peace of mind is invaluable.

When I was on glivec I had terrible stomach problems and after spending most of the weekend in Spanish toilets and running from Maldive beachs to the loo, I managed to 'forget' my pills on subsequent holidays! I hasten to add this was with the permission of my doctor.

Enjoy your holiday.

 

Susan

 

Hi

I always carry extra (in case of delayed return) and split it between hand luggage and hold luggage "just in case".  Like others I also take a letter that confirms my status as a CML patient but also I've never been asked for it...

As for temperature, I've never worried if the room is airconditioned and I can find a shady spot or a drawer to keep it in. I always leave my tablets in their original "blister packs" though - if you use a pill box/dispenser and take the tablets out, they can absorb moisture if it's too warm which isn't great.  So I would keep them in original packaging.

Immodium is OK with Glivec I believe.

Have a good holiday.

 

I have always carried it in my hand luggage.   I have had no problems with it in a Dosette box, along with my other meds, in hot/humid (Turkey, Maldives, Italy, Med boat trips) and cold/damp climates (here and Austria in winter).   I split my Glivec in half, so you would think that if there was a moisture problem it would suffer.  I always take enough to cover an extended delay.   No problem with Immodium or any other holiday-type remedy so far.

Go and enjoy.

John

I have had a problem once when they were in a pill box and a damp atmosphere - I still use the box but keep the pills in their blister packs.

Hi,

I have recently returned from a week in the USA and I took around 20 tablets with me in hand luggage just in case I got delayed.

I have also noticed in the UK when I dispense a weeks worth of tablets in my pill box the tablet coating starts to crack and flake but only in summer.

Must be the temperature/humidity.

Hi,

I have recently returned from a week in the USA and I took around 20 tablets with me in hand luggage just in case I got delayed.

I have also noticed in the UK when I dispense a weeks worth of tablets in my pill box the tablet coating starts to crack and flake but only in summer.

Must be the temperature/humidity.

I agree with all of the above posts- but I must add the following caveat- PLEASE do not take a 'holiday' from your medication- it is very well documented that such 'drug  holidays' are really not desirable at all as over time they can lead to the development of drug resistance.  

Have a lovely time in Turkey- 

Best wishes,

Sandy

 

Thank you so much for all your great advice.

We're so looking forward to chilling out and spending some relaxed, quality time together as a family after what has been an 'interesting' year. 

Although my husband has reminded me he will need lots of extra looking after in terms of me regularly delivering drinks, snacks and reading matter to his sun lounger (and of course keeping him covered in high factor cream because of the Glivec), so it might not be so relaxing for me! (Not that I mind, of course).

Thanks again.x

Hi

 

My suggestions - keep your drugs in the blister packs.

I carry my drugs with hand luggage .

For security - I do the below.

Have my travel medical certificate signed by doctor.

Photocopy the glivec or drug package that states doctor, your name and dosage.

Put a copy of both around drugs and have as hand luggage.

Place copies in both travel wallet, and case. So all in all you have 3 copies of documents.

I also do this with a script - that I take with me along with contact details of your specialist and 

treating hospital if you have one and your Ambassador and Consultant Contacts in case needed.

 

Have a great holiday 

 

Hi Sandy,

Can you give me the references to the documented evidence that Glivec holidays are not desirable. I am just about to have my routine consultation with my consultant and I am hopeful that my 4 years of zero BCR will continue. I understand that there was a trial done where patients with 0 BCR stopped taking Glivec and the last I heard was that 50% had started taking it again but with no deterioration in their response. Do you know the latest situation on that trial?

Regards,  John H

Hi John

In answer to your question about Glivec holidays, there are a few studies on adherence and its relationship to molecular response.  Perhaps the best is the study by David Marin (Hammersmith) et al, which was published in the American Journal of Clinical Oncology in September 2010 (and probably elsewhere). I can't post a link but if you put "cml adherence" into Google it will come up (hit no 3 in my search). In a nutshell, it seems to establish that adherence to therapy is a, perhaps the, major factor in achieving the best responses to TKI therapy: the level of adherence at which this factor seems to begin to show itself is actually quite high.  Below adherence of 90% there is a statistically relevant correlation, and below 80%, for patients on the study, none achieved MMR.  Bottom line is - the better the adherence, the better the outcome.

On the stop trial issue, I think you refer to the ongoing French STIM trial (Stop Imatinib) which at current levels of follow up (2 years I think) seems to show that for a proportion of patients in long term CMR, it may be possible to stop imatinib long term. It does also so far seem to show that those in that trial who lose their CMR after stopping imatinib regain it when put back on the drug.  However, those running the study have made it very clear that only those in long term CMR are eligible to enrol in the trial (which would include you, if you were in France) and that stopping therapy should only be done as part of a clinical trial, with close monitoring.  There are plans for a similar trial in the UK but that has been approved yet as far as I know.

Aside from this, I would agree with Sandy that any Glivec or other TKI "holiday" is something I would only do having discussed it in detail with my consultant.  People do do it for various reasons, but I think it also depends on your current response level, personal circumstances etc.

Rgds

Richard 

Hi Richard,

Thanks very much for the response. That is very helpful.

Best regards,  John H